To be clear, I'm not using these as acoustic cymbals (I put drum triggers on them for triggering a module). But I did try them out acoustically, and for a starter pack I think they're great. Most of you have probably seen starter/learner drum kits with badly warped pieces of vague disc-like metal sheets attached to them which when hit, send all the local wildlife (and most humans) running for hiding. Well these are not those. The hat's actually sound like real hi-hats and I would not have an issue playing them live in a pinch. The 14" crashes are a bit bright for me though (it wasn't that bad because I did buy another one separately), and the 10" splash was pretty good too.
+ Price is good
+ Sound is reasonable
+ Quite thick and heavy and look well built - no imperfections in surface spotted
+ Made in Europe - try to support your local economy/workers (please)!
- none. I don't think you can get better performance/price in starter cymbals than these.